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pancakes nonbinary_cat @pancakes@meow.company
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i know it's a sin (/lhj) but i'm thinking of switching from arch back to fedora (but still using niri and all that)
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pancakes nonbinary_cat @pancakes@meow.company
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or maybe i try cachyos
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φ @fiore@brain.worm.pink
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@pancakes oh ! what happened
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pancakes nonbinary_cat @pancakes@meow.company
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@fiore i think my install might be fucked but steam and things that interact with steam (but not the games directly) crash constantly and it pisses me off
i can't find anyone else who has the same issues
i really don't wanna leave arch though
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φ @fiore@brain.worm.pink
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@pancakes hmm . imean , isnt reinstalling arch from scratch an option ? :P
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pancakes nonbinary_cat @pancakes@meow.company
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@fiore i mean im switching to a new drive anyway so i thought of using it as an excuse to hop but i might try cachy so i don't need to change things up too much
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φ @fiore@brain.worm.pink
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@pancakes isnt cachy that one distro that anti woke gamers have been shilling lately
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TF2 IS SO BACK @gamer@fedi.bungle.online
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@fiore @pancakes i don't own those gamers
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φ @fiore@brain.worm.pink
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@gamer @pancakes killl them
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TF2 IS SO BACK @gamer@fedi.bungle.online
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@fiore @pancakes will do o7
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pancakes nonbinary_cat @pancakes@meow.company
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@fiore i haven't heard this. source?
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pancakes nonbinary_cat @pancakes@meow.company
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@fiore from their policy pages:
This is a LGBTQ+ safe place, and so it is forbidden to provoke and insult LGBTQ+ people.
We as members, contributors, and leaders pledge to make participation in our community a harassment-free experience for everyone, regardless of age, body size, visible or invisible disability, ethnicity, sex characteristics, gender identity and expression, level of experience, education, socio-economic status, nationality, personal appearance, race, religion, or sexual identity and orientation.

We pledge to act and interact in ways that contribute to an open, welcoming, diverse, inclusive, and healthy community.
doesn't give off anti woke
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φ @fiore@brain.worm.pink
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@pancakes oh thats nice !!!!! my mistake then !!
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@pancakes idk i migjt be wrong actually
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kopper colon_three @kopper@not-brain.d.on-t.work
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@fiore @pancakes i think thats omarchy youre thinkinh og
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Kett‮ @kett@app.wafrn.net
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@pancakes @fiore @kopper

Both of them have been sponsored by Cloudflare and Framework, who mixed themselves up with some "anti-woke" projects and persons so I can understand the concern.
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φ @fiore@brain.worm.pink
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@kopper @pancakes yea i mustve assumed they were part of the same bubble
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Steffo @steffo@a.junimo.party
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@pancakes are you on the steam beta? does it happen even on steam stable?
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pancakes nonbinary_cat @pancakes@meow.company
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@steffo im on stable
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Ukko @eris@p.enes.lv
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reply guy here. You probably tried looking at these already but my guesses just in case:

steam needs some outdated library that arch has updated from libsomething.so.2 to libsomething.so.3 in the default package you have installed (but others have the old version bcs of something else pulling it in)
steam builtin web browser is being a little bitch again, if you have multiple GPUs try playing with steam safe mode or prime-run/switcheroo stuff when launching it. i think there is also a hacky way to launch steam without starting it (which is why launching games might work)
maybe just reinstalling steam will help? no need to jump distros
maybe you had steam installed from some flatpak or some custom outdated AUR package so pacman isn't tracking the newest needed dependenciesif i had to make bets, i'd say it's the web helper (i've had issues with it in the past to the point of entire steam client crash-restarting, but i can offer no solution)

CC: @fiore
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pancakes nonbinary_cat @pancakes@meow.company
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@eris @fiore i'm using a single gpu (Radeon RX 6950 XT), i've reinstalled steam once or twice and it only happens on this computer and this issue has been happening for over a year
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princess pancake butterfly_​neofox_lesbian @natty@astolfo.social
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@pancakes @fiore oh hey same
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princess pancake butterfly_​neofox_lesbian @natty@astolfo.social
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@pancakes @fiore my steam is in a flatpak though so it gotta be steam right
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pancakes nonbinary_cat @pancakes@meow.company
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@natty @fiore ough someone else
it's been sooo long
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princess pancake butterfly_​neofox_lesbian @natty@astolfo.social
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@pancakes @fiore I'm also on Niri neofox_think_woozy
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pancakes nonbinary_cat @pancakes@meow.company
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@natty @fiore i was also having this issue on river. i don't remember with gnome but it seemed less common or nonexistent on kde
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princess pancake butterfly_​neofox_lesbian @natty@astolfo.social
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@pancakes @fiore it's steamwebhelper crashing right

My initial theory was Steam using some Wayland-based Proton version that crashes the webview but I haven't tested it yet
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pancakes nonbinary_cat @pancakes@meow.company
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@natty @fiore i think it is steamwebhelper yeah because the overlay gets more and more unresponsive with every crash

afaik proton doesn't use the wayland driver in wine because overlay (and therefore steam input) don't work with it
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princess pancake butterfly_​neofox_lesbian @natty@astolfo.social
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@pancakes @fiore oh hm it crashes for us when we get an achievement neofox_woozy
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princess pancake butterfly_​neofox_lesbian @natty@astolfo.social
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@pancakes @fiore I assume it's the overlay itself then causing this
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pancakes nonbinary_cat @pancakes@meow.company
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@natty @fiore it's been haunting me for so long i'm so sick of it
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charlotte @halva@mk.absturztau.be
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@pancakes @fiore gaming on niri natively is a fool's errand in my experience, just put steam under gamescope first and see if anything improves
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pancakes nonbinary_cat @pancakes@meow.company
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@halva @fiore i guess i can try putting the entire client under gamescope if that's what you mean. but idk how to switch windows inside gamescope and i think that enables the deck ui
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charlotte @halva@mk.absturztau.be
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@pancakes @fiore gamescope automatically picks up the game window if you enable steam integration with -e, and no, steam won't switch to gamepadui or especially steamos3 mode inside gamescope, that's always an explicit parameter
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charlotte @halva@mk.absturztau.be
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@pancakes @fiore and yea that's what i mean xd
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pancakes nonbinary_cat @pancakes@meow.company
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@halva @fiore what args do you use with gamescope for that setup?
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charlotte @halva@mk.absturztau.be
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@pancakes @fiore gamescope --expose-wayland -e -W [mon_width] -H [mon_height] -r [max_rr] -o 10 -f -- /usr/bin/steam

ymmv tho, i still add -gamepadui to steam because i just prefer it
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pancakes nonbinary_cat @pancakes@meow.company
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@halva @fiore steam gets stuck in a boot loop if i include -e TwT
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pancakes nonbinary_cat @pancakes@meow.company
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i really need to swap in my new ssd but even though my vision hasn't changed at all i've lost all confidence in working on my own pc because of it :(
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pancakes nonbinary_cat @pancakes@meow.company
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i genuinely don't know what to do about this
my closest friend lives 30 mins by car and once it's swapped out i know i will just want to spend the rest of the day reinstalling everything and i'd feel bad asking them to just leave
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